Posts by aligot ripounsous

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Feeling numb... feeling like I did when I first DAed.

by Elsewhere in

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my dad recently told all the kids that he has terminal cancer.

he is going to die... could be in a month... could be in a year.. all the kids recently visited my parents over last weekend.

i was allowed to come too due to the "family business" clause in the wts rules.. yesterday i cried... i'm still crying a bit today and am feeling numb.

aligot ripounsous

Elsewhere,

I've never had to handle a situation likes yours because I'm (was) about the only JW in the family, so I offer you the best I have, sympathy. What I experienced before my Mum passed away 3 years ago, past 91, and found it very comforting, was staying with her as much as I could, every evening, because we both knew that time was getting precious. It was a comforting feeling, afterwards, to know that I had done as much as I had been able to, and I believe it was a solace to her to see 2 of her 3 children, and one of her grand daughters, near her in those instants. I'm sure that your JW family won't bar you from doing so, JWs as they are, they are humans and, who knows, you might get closer to one another in these circumstances. My best wishes to you, and to your Dad.

A thought for Purps who hasn't had a chance to draw closer to her Mum last WE.

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can you really ever fade with immediate family still in?

by oompa in

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i am beginning to think not....elders still want to call on me rather than befriend me in any way.....and with a "good" wife and son and parents in, it seems like i still have one foot in only because of the overlap with my other "free" self........it is hard to really feel free in this situation, and is still have desire to just run the fluck away.....which would mean pretty much giving up my family in nearly every respect.

some here really miss their family and wife, others so love the freedom they seem able to move on and start fresh....as you know, i dont seem to have the balls for that, and at this point in my life the price seems to high to fully start over........it is the "one in one out limbo dance"......oompa.

aligot ripounsous

I stopped attending all meetings about 3 months ago but it hasn't entailed any drama at home. Children have long stopped attending, my wife still goes, when she feels for. I give her a lift to the KH, collect her at the end unless she prefers taking the bus with a few sisters, I say hello to JWs I come across, as simple as that. Can't see a problem there.

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FlyingHighNow Needs Our Love & Support

by snowbird in

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her son, jesse, is in serious condition.. my son is in surgery and may lose his hand and arm.. jesse got an infection in a cut on his finger.

his finger and hand swelled to the size of an arm .. .

they have to do surgery on his hand and arm.

aligot ripounsous

FHN, sincere wishes of safe outcome for your son.

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The Search For a Paradise Earth

by Farkel in

the one constant in life.

there is only one significant constant in life and that constant is simply: we all die.

no matter how successful we become, we will die.

aligot ripounsous

Hei, Narkissos,

You are perfectly right, not much remains to cling to, except a personal relationship to God with plenty of unanswered questions. Leaving a religion like JWs without an alternative leaves you with this desillusioned opinion : Toutes les mêmes... (all alike). That is an aspect of its destructiveness.

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The Search For a Paradise Earth

by Farkel in

the one constant in life.

there is only one significant constant in life and that constant is simply: we all die.

no matter how successful we become, we will die.

aligot ripounsous

Why is it that such a piece of witty literature has met so little echo within JWD/N ?

Sincere congratulations, Farkel, you are a very good writer.

But, as for me, I've made this earthly paradise hope mine for 30 years and I 'm not going to abandon it, despite your valuable arguments. The reason is that I have no fall back solution. I haven't got a clue about what heavenly life looks like, so I need to feel some sound ground under my feet for the 20 years or so I have -hopefully-left. We'll see, in the end, who is right/wrong, unless we just see nothing at all, which is another plausible possibility...

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What response would you give to this JW illustration ?

by troubled mind in

my jw in laws send us these types of emails every once in a while .

never is there any real personal correspondence from them and it irritates me.

i have sent emails back before critiquing the logic of some of their emails.. i will be sending a response to this latest one ,and i would appreciate some ideas .. i know many of you on this forum are so excellant with your words i would enjoy your input .. the first thing that came to my mind after i read the illustration was "i am so glad i am no longer on the endless tread mill of witness logic that has you running forever from scary imaginary spirit beings ".

aligot ripounsous

I would answer : I can see your point and you're probably right, but what next ? are you trying to say that the WTS is interested in helping me escape from the fox ? I'm afraid this is where we start differring, the WTS couldn't care less about me, they work at preserving their stakes in this "system of things" and to their own survival from collapse, not mine.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 8-23-09 WT Study (SPEAK TRUTH)

by blondie in

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comments you will not hear at the 08-23-09 wt study (june 15, 2009 pages 11-20)(speak truth).

review comments will be in red or comments heading.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

aligot ripounsous

Thanks Blondie, for your research work. Within the latest 18 months or so, it is the second WT article about telling the truth which in fact is just written for the purpose of requiring JWs NOT to tell the truth on the ground of theocratic war. This insistence makes me think that the WTS has a lot to hide and that there are probably misgivings on the part of some people within the organisation about that policy, at a level in the hierarchy which worries the top decision makers.

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Fluff...nothing but fluff

by mrsjones5 in

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i don't want to talk about healthcare reform (it hits too close to home).

i don't want to talk about michael vick (he's back).

i don't even want to talk about obama (he's not the boogyman).

aligot ripounsous

And Melchisedech on top of it all, equals 40 bottles

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What Assembly were you baptized at...

by vilot in

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i was baptized at the 1976 "sacret secret" dc at inglewood ca there must have been 50,000 people there..

aligot ripounsous

Colombes rugby stadium in Paris suburbs, july 1981. Didn't bother remembering the name of that D.A.

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what apostate info was around in early 80's?

by highdose in

a jw i know i very fond of telling people that he read apostate stuff in the early 80's and that when he later came into the turth it was proved to him that it was all lies ( the apostate info that is).

i've always wondered what it was he read, and how it could have been refuted by the dubs?.

and no, i've got no way of asking him, not without landing myself in hot water.

aligot ripounsous

In the late seventies in London, I remember a pioneer sister having mentioned to me, in hushed voice, that there was an apostate book called "escaped from the tower", written by a former JW. I wonder if she was referring to Shnell's book, since I've never heard about that book again.